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	<title>Comments on: Review: An Attic Called DEVONthink</title>
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		<title>By: ...pickhits...</title>
		<link>http://douglasjohnston.net/weblog/archives/2005/05/22/devonthink-attic/#comment-10736</link>
		<author>...pickhits...</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2005 17:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;strong&gt;links for 2005-05-22&lt;/strong&gt;

 Environmental Heresies Stewart Brand article, oft cited, regarding forward changes in environmentalism (tags: politics stewartBrand CoEvQ energy) Distracto: Tutorial:...</description>
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<p> Environmental Heresies Stewart Brand article, oft cited, regarding forward changes in environmentalism (tags: politics stewartBrand CoEvQ energy) Distracto: Tutorial:&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: brainwidth</title>
		<link>http://douglasjohnston.net/weblog/archives/2005/05/22/devonthink-attic/#comment-10789</link>
		<author>brainwidth</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2005 19:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://douglasjohnston.net/weblog/archives/2005/05/22/devonthink-attic/#comment-10789</guid>
					<description>I wish I could give DEVONthink a spin, but as I've no Mac, I'm out of luck.  Alas, "OS X friendly" also means OS X &lt;em&gt;only.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I could give DEVONthink a spin, but as I&#8217;ve no Mac, I&#8217;m out of luck.  Alas, &#8220;OS X friendly&#8221; also means OS X <em>only.</em><em></em></p>
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		<title>By: Mike Brown</title>
		<link>http://douglasjohnston.net/weblog/archives/2005/05/22/devonthink-attic/#comment-10791</link>
		<author>Mike Brown</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2005 13:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://douglasjohnston.net/weblog/archives/2005/05/22/devonthink-attic/#comment-10791</guid>
					<description>As a contrast to Sherlock's theory, here's a competing point of view from two characters in Robertson Davies' novel "Tempest-Tost":

"Oho, now I know what you are. You are an advocate of Useful Knowledge."

"Certainly."

"You say that a man's first job is to earn a living, and that the first task of education is to equip him for that job."

"Of course."

"Well, allow me to introduce myself to you as an advocate of Ornamental Knowledge. You like the mind to be a neat machine, equipped to work efficiently, if narrowly, and with no extra bits or useless parts. I like the mind to be a dustbin of scraps of brilliant fabric, odd gems, worthless but fascinating curiosities, tinsel, quaint bits of carving, and a reasonable amount of healthy dirt. Shake the machine and it goes out of order; shake the dustbin and it adjusts itself beautifully to its new position."

&#62;&#62;Thanks for a great blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a contrast to Sherlock&#8217;s theory, here&#8217;s a competing point of view from two characters in Robertson Davies&#8217; novel &#8220;Tempest-Tost&#8221;:</p>
<p>&#8220;Oho, now I know what you are. You are an advocate of Useful Knowledge.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Certainly.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;You say that a man&#8217;s first job is to earn a living, and that the first task of education is to equip him for that job.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Of course.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Well, allow me to introduce myself to you as an advocate of Ornamental Knowledge. You like the mind to be a neat machine, equipped to work efficiently, if narrowly, and with no extra bits or useless parts. I like the mind to be a dustbin of scraps of brilliant fabric, odd gems, worthless but fascinating curiosities, tinsel, quaint bits of carving, and a reasonable amount of healthy dirt. Shake the machine and it goes out of order; shake the dustbin and it adjusts itself beautifully to its new position.&#8221;</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;Thanks for a great blog.</p>
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		<title>By: dougj</title>
		<link>http://douglasjohnston.net/weblog/archives/2005/05/22/devonthink-attic/#comment-10793</link>
		<author>dougj</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2005 14:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://douglasjohnston.net/weblog/archives/2005/05/22/devonthink-attic/#comment-10793</guid>
					<description>Ha! Excellent, Mike!

From that point of view, I think DEVONthink would also make an excellent dustbin. (Although I'm not sure that's an endorsement they'd wish to use on their website.)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha! Excellent, Mike!</p>
<p>From that point of view, I think DEVONthink would also make an excellent dustbin. (Although I&#8217;m not sure that&#8217;s an endorsement they&#8217;d wish to use on their website.)</p>
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		<title>By: Pascal Venier</title>
		<link>http://douglasjohnston.net/weblog/archives/2005/05/22/devonthink-attic/#comment-10852</link>
		<author>Pascal Venier</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 May 2005 16:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://douglasjohnston.net/weblog/archives/2005/05/22/devonthink-attic/#comment-10852</guid>
					<description>... elementary, my dear Johnston!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; elementary, my dear Johnston!</p>
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		<title>By: Serkan Cabi</title>
		<link>http://douglasjohnston.net/weblog/archives/2005/05/22/devonthink-attic/#comment-23315</link>
		<author>Serkan Cabi</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2005 06:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://douglasjohnston.net/weblog/archives/2005/05/22/devonthink-attic/#comment-23315</guid>
					<description>Hi, nice summary.

Can you tell me how can I find the "import droplet" you were talking about. Is it a Pro feature?

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, nice summary.</p>
<p>Can you tell me how can I find the &#8220;import droplet&#8221; you were talking about. Is it a Pro feature?</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Gino J. Piazza</title>
		<link>http://douglasjohnston.net/weblog/archives/2005/05/22/devonthink-attic/#comment-42737</link>
		<author>Gino J. Piazza</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2005 19:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://douglasjohnston.net/weblog/archives/2005/05/22/devonthink-attic/#comment-42737</guid>
					<description>Your article was written in May, however, I just read it today.  Very good viewpoints.  I have DEVONthink, I may just have to upgrade to DEVONthink Pro after reading your observations.  I see that you mentioned Aquamind's Notetaker.  I would like to know what you think of Circus Ponies' NoteBook, that is, if you have looked into it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your article was written in May, however, I just read it today.  Very good viewpoints.  I have DEVONthink, I may just have to upgrade to DEVONthink Pro after reading your observations.  I see that you mentioned Aquamind&#8217;s Notetaker.  I would like to know what you think of Circus Ponies&#8217; NoteBook, that is, if you have looked into it.</p>
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		<title>By: a million monkeys typing &#187; DEVONthink Pro Public Beta 2</title>
		<link>http://douglasjohnston.net/weblog/archives/2005/05/22/devonthink-attic/#comment-44055</link>
		<author>a million monkeys typing &#187; DEVONthink Pro Public Beta 2</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2005 18:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://douglasjohnston.net/weblog/archives/2005/05/22/devonthink-attic/#comment-44055</guid>
					<description>[...]  also a revised manual and a very handy tutorial to get you started. See the previous post An Attic Called DEVONthink for my review of the application, although [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;]  also a revised manual and a very handy tutorial to get you started. See the previous post An Attic Called DEVONthink for my review of the application, although [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: michael mckee</title>
		<link>http://douglasjohnston.net/weblog/archives/2005/05/22/devonthink-attic/#comment-54546</link>
		<author>michael mckee</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2005 06:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://douglasjohnston.net/weblog/archives/2005/05/22/devonthink-attic/#comment-54546</guid>
					<description>Thank you Douglas,

I've been a DT devote for a couple of year now. It has grown as my needs have expanded. However, I've never been able to quite describe it. Your piece is wonderful and I'll probably end up sending this url to a number of people over time.

I've been using the Pro beta through several incarnations and find it excellent. I too have used Tinderbox and loved its sophistication but, too, have wished that it took more advantage of the built-in goodies of OS X as well as handled a wider range of file formats. I even chafed against the same shortcoming is Circus Ponies' Notebook and AquaMinds' Notetaker that you mention.

In short, you have beautifully articulated what I've been trying to say for some time. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Douglas,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been a DT devote for a couple of year now. It has grown as my needs have expanded. However, I&#8217;ve never been able to quite describe it. Your piece is wonderful and I&#8217;ll probably end up sending this url to a number of people over time.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been using the Pro beta through several incarnations and find it excellent. I too have used Tinderbox and loved its sophistication but, too, have wished that it took more advantage of the built-in goodies of OS X as well as handled a wider range of file formats. I even chafed against the same shortcoming is Circus Ponies&#8217; Notebook and AquaMinds&#8217; Notetaker that you mention.</p>
<p>In short, you have beautifully articulated what I&#8217;ve been trying to say for some time. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Durbrow</title>
		<link>http://douglasjohnston.net/weblog/archives/2005/05/22/devonthink-attic/#comment-56071</link>
		<author>Durbrow</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2005 18:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://douglasjohnston.net/weblog/archives/2005/05/22/devonthink-attic/#comment-56071</guid>
					<description>Excellent review. Just a quick note and query. Circus Ponies Notebook does not suffer from the same flaw as AquaMinds NoteTaker. One can have a rich hierarchy of levels on the Contents Page.

I do would love to see the author's take on the new Pro version (and whether it offer significantly more than the Personal edition)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent review. Just a quick note and query. Circus Ponies Notebook does not suffer from the same flaw as AquaMinds NoteTaker. One can have a rich hierarchy of levels on the Contents Page.</p>
<p>I do would love to see the author&#8217;s take on the new Pro version (and whether it offer significantly more than the Personal edition)</p>
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		<title>By: JV</title>
		<link>http://douglasjohnston.net/weblog/archives/2005/05/22/devonthink-attic/#comment-91955</link>
		<author>JV</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2005 18:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://douglasjohnston.net/weblog/archives/2005/05/22/devonthink-attic/#comment-91955</guid>
					<description>Great review.  

As a soon-to-be switcher (I have an iMac at home but don't get to spend a lot of time with it; I'm planning on buying a Powerbook as a writing machine and all-around brain), I'm torn between DT and Tinderbox. I've experimented with DT a good bit more, probably because its demo version is much more functional than TB's.  I've had a great time entering blog posts into DT, organizing them, and exporting them to ecto for posting to my blog.  I could easily see myself writing *everything* in DT.

I haven't really tried using DT as a general-purpose notetaking or brainstorming app.  TB seems more suited to that, but it's also byzantine, emacsian and intimidating -- as you've already noted.  I can't afford to buy both, nor would I want to store my data in two places.  I'm leaning towards DT at the moment, but have never been a big fan of hierarchy.  I hope you're right about category and tag support in the final release of DT Pro.

All that being said, could you be more specific about your experience with TB?  How did you attempt to use it?  Any gripes other than usability?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great review.  </p>
<p>As a soon-to-be switcher (I have an iMac at home but don&#8217;t get to spend a lot of time with it; I&#8217;m planning on buying a Powerbook as a writing machine and all-around brain), I&#8217;m torn between DT and Tinderbox. I&#8217;ve experimented with DT a good bit more, probably because its demo version is much more functional than TB&#8217;s.  I&#8217;ve had a great time entering blog posts into DT, organizing them, and exporting them to ecto for posting to my blog.  I could easily see myself writing *everything* in DT.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t really tried using DT as a general-purpose notetaking or brainstorming app.  TB seems more suited to that, but it&#8217;s also byzantine, emacsian and intimidating &#8212; as you&#8217;ve already noted.  I can&#8217;t afford to buy both, nor would I want to store my data in two places.  I&#8217;m leaning towards DT at the moment, but have never been a big fan of hierarchy.  I hope you&#8217;re right about category and tag support in the final release of DT Pro.</p>
<p>All that being said, could you be more specific about your experience with TB?  How did you attempt to use it?  Any gripes other than usability?</p>
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		<title>By: D*I*Y Planner</title>
		<link>http://douglasjohnston.net/weblog/archives/2005/05/22/devonthink-attic/#comment-99647</link>
		<author>D*I*Y Planner</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://douglasjohnston.net/weblog/archives/2005/05/22/devonthink-attic/#comment-99647</guid>
					<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Commonplace Book: Part I&lt;/strong&gt;

Over at the PigPog Blog is a great post about Storing Nuggets of Information, calling for ideas. This is something I've been struggling with for many years myself, and have only lately been making any sort of headway. When I think about all the years ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Commonplace Book: Part I</strong></p>
<p>Over at the PigPog Blog is a great post about Storing Nuggets of Information, calling for ideas. This is something I&#8217;ve been struggling with for many years myself, and have only lately been making any sort of headway. When I think about all the years &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Swamp  &#187; Blog Archive   &#187; Life Hacks</title>
		<link>http://douglasjohnston.net/weblog/archives/2005/05/22/devonthink-attic/#comment-103452</link>
		<author>The Swamp  &#187; Blog Archive   &#187; Life Hacks</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2005 21:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://douglasjohnston.net/weblog/archives/2005/05/22/devonthink-attic/#comment-103452</guid>
					<description>[...] List 	The Commonplace Book 	Journalisimo 	Life hacks - 43FoldersWiki 	Getting Things Done 	An Attic Called DEVONthink 	D*I*Y Planner 	Productivity pr0n 	Moleski [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] List 	The Commonplace Book 	Journalisimo 	Life hacks - 43FoldersWiki 	Getting Things Done 	An Attic Called DEVONthink 	D*I*Y Planner 	Productivity pr0n 	Moleski [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: D*I*Y Planner</title>
		<link>http://douglasjohnston.net/weblog/archives/2005/05/22/devonthink-attic/#comment-107709</link>
		<author>D*I*Y Planner</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2005 11:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://douglasjohnston.net/weblog/archives/2005/05/22/devonthink-attic/#comment-107709</guid>
					<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Digital Packrat&lt;/strong&gt;

Woe to my poor wife, for she has married a packrat. You know my type: the person who keeps one --or multiple-- "junk drawers" or "junk boxes" filled with discarded wires, ticket stubs, twisted metal bits, leather scraps, ancient gadgets, cheap give...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Digital Packrat</strong></p>
<p>Woe to my poor wife, for she has married a packrat. You know my type: the person who keeps one &#8211;or multiple&#8211; &#8220;junk drawers&#8221; or &#8220;junk boxes&#8221; filled with discarded wires, ticket stubs, twisted metal bits, leather scraps, ancient gadgets, cheap give&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: a million monkeys typing &#187; 43 Folders on DEVONthink and Smart Groups</title>
		<link>http://douglasjohnston.net/weblog/archives/2005/05/22/devonthink-attic/#comment-116668</link>
		<author>a million monkeys typing &#187; 43 Folders on DEVONthink and Smart Groups</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2006 15:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://douglasjohnston.net/weblog/archives/2005/05/22/devonthink-attic/#comment-116668</guid>
					<description>[...] DEVONthink Pro is probably my favourite piece of software. Ever. While I use a score of multimedia applications (Photoshop, Illustrator, Dreamweaver, etc.) on a regular basis, I am &#8211;by nature and trade, in the broadest sense&#8211; an information worker. I need a digital commonplace book to collect, track and act upon all those things that Merlin mentions, and much more. While DEVONthink Personal proved an excellent application for doing this, the introduction of DT Pro and its subsequent updates have left me continually astounded. (See my earlier detailed review of DT for more information.) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] DEVONthink Pro is probably my favourite piece of software. Ever. While I use a score of multimedia applications (Photoshop, Illustrator, Dreamweaver, etc.) on a regular basis, I am &#8211;by nature and trade, in the broadest sense&#8211; an information worker. I need a digital commonplace book to collect, track and act upon all those things that Merlin mentions, and much more. While DEVONthink Personal proved an excellent application for doing this, the introduction of DT Pro and its subsequent updates have left me continually astounded. (See my earlier detailed review of DT for more information.) [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: DEVONthink Professional half-price today only! &#8212; Jim Gibbon.com</title>
		<link>http://douglasjohnston.net/weblog/archives/2005/05/22/devonthink-attic/#comment-158767</link>
		<author>DEVONthink Professional half-price today only! &#8212; Jim Gibbon.com</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://douglasjohnston.net/weblog/archives/2005/05/22/devonthink-attic/#comment-158767</guid>
					<description>[...] An Attic Called DEVONthink [a million monkeys typing] DEVONthink Pro [MacResearch] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] An Attic Called DEVONthink [a million monkeys typing] DEVONthink Pro [MacResearch] [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Friday Shorts 28 March &#124; Fragments From Floyd</title>
		<link>http://douglasjohnston.net/weblog/archives/2005/05/22/devonthink-attic/#comment-166889</link>
		<author>Friday Shorts 28 March &#124; Fragments From Floyd</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 10:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://douglasjohnston.net/weblog/archives/2005/05/22/devonthink-attic/#comment-166889</guid>
					<description>[...] My replacement brain-on-Mac: DevonthinkPro and here’s why. [...]</description>
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